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Originally Posted by andyPull
Thankyou very much chaps, absolutely right; I was picking up signal from cable feed (I did'nt realise you could pick anything up without going through the box).
Andy 
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guess you must have a hyberband tuner than can tune into the higher frequances the cable uses ... i think my portable can best to leave the box connected though probably need it there to descramble the payed channels..
also it probably has something in the box to stop you sending ingress back into ntls network