Well I managed to rip it ok, then I've used dvd2one to shrink it...not, says that i have the trial version and that i can only encode 30 mins of footage
also I tried to shrink it down to 200 mb but the 30 mins that i got was 550 mb, I'll have a look / play.
Also i'm gonna try dvdshrink
let you all know how i get on