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Originally Posted by bontrager
okay, well i have caller id and the new phones are working fine, now onto SMS. So can i send them via the ntl network? I would think not, but i got a bit confused as some other folk said they could, if so, how do you do it 
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I beleive the way landline SMS works is that there is a message centre number programmed into your SMS phones. When you send an SMS the phone dials the message centre and transfers the message - BT charge 10p per call to this number.
AFAIK, for it to work on NTL all they have to do is allow your phone to call the BT message centre (which they may or may not) and then charge you for that call (I do not know how much).
There is nothing more technically difficult than that so there is no real reason why it should not work on NTL (receiving SMS to the phone as text is a different matter).
Nemesis seemed to be suggesting that Panasonic SMS phones were fully working on NTL, above.