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Old 21-12-2004, 00:32   #12
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Re: NTL cap limit
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Originally Posted by mojo
This is going to be a bit of a problem. P2P is really taking off, and has many legitimate uses that NTL is going to be hurting.

For example, next year the BBC will begin distributing programs via P2P. If you can only upload a fraction of what you download per day, due to capping, all NTL users will be forced to leech. Ditto with BitTorrent.

The whole point of broadband is not just to make web pages load faster - it's about media. Video and audio. Web TV and web radio. Now reasonable speeds are finally comming to the UK, and NTL are trying to retard it.

A friend of mine in Japan gets 100Mbit fiber to her flat for £23/month, uncapped. Of course, it doesn't operate that fast but she thinks it's quicker than Yahoo's 50Mbit ADSL. Thanks for holding the UK back, NTL.
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mojo, have you ever considered thinking before posting? Maybe combined with a bit of reading around the subject?

For example, where on earth are NTL supposed to get the money to dig up roads in every major town in Britain to replace the coax cable with fibre? Hell, doing it the first time almost bankrupted them?

Likewise, there's not a lot they can do about the internation cable modem protocol, DOCSIS. The version currently used, (Euro)DOCSIS 1.1, is designed to be very very assymetric. That's why cable connections are very assymmetric. This isn't NTL's fault, it's the people who designed the protocol in the first place. There is an upgraded version, DOCSIS 2.0, with much better upstream capabilities, but the server equipment isn't readily available for it yet. But guess what: the modems NTL are giving out now can be flashed to DOCSIS 2.0 when the time comes.

(By the way, if we're going for useless examples, I have several friends living in UK who can plug their home computers straight into a 100Mbps internet connection -- and pay less than £100 a year for the privalege. Also, I notice you don't mention the many cable ISPs in the states where configurations like 8 meg down/128k up are not uncommon -- for exactly the same reasons as above.)

So you tell me, now that I've saved you the trouble of actually going out and learning for yourself: given the limits of the technology available to them at the present time, how should NTL proceed?

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