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Originally Posted by jem
OK let’s take this piece by piece
'Look at Depp, his life was ruined because of a false accusation, only now is he really starting to get his life back on track somewhat but he has still lost out, he is still by some called a rapist etc, meanwhile Heard basically got away with it, although it does seem no one wants to work with her anymore, but she has faced no real punishment for what she did, unlike Depp who was punished for no reason!’
What punishment did Jonny Depp get? Not being employed, not getting movie contracts? But you say that Amber Heard is in a similar situation, so in what way did she get away with it and he didn’t?
“There needs to be accountability on those as well that falsely accuse, if a rapist get's 10 years in prison then a false accuser should get 15-20 years, only when people (women mostly) learn they cannot falsely accuse someone and get away with it, will the false accusations stop.”
No, there is accountability, some women have been convicted and imprisoned for making false claims. The problem is that rape and sexual assault is somewhat different to ‘other’ crimes. If I break in to your house and take stuff, or stab you in the street, or drive while absolutely pissed, then it’s obvious that I have committed a crime. It’s just a case of was it me who did it?
But I have sex with someone, in itself that act is perfectly legal, well unless it was nonconsensual, and therein is the problem. Can you prove it one way or another?
And lastly, hypothetically a female member of your family is, or claims to have been raped, and she is traumatised, but for various reasons her alleged attacker is acquitted. Does she go to prison for 15 years?
Just a thought.
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Heard got away with it in monetary terms because she basically lost nothing, whilst Depp lost at the last number I saw close to $40m in roles as well as "friends" and still to this day suffers from damage to his reputation because there are still people who see his name as "bad" and refuse to work with him despite being cleared.
Heard is still getting roles to this day, mainly in theater and none hollywood films, lost about $2m in total, compared to what she caused to Depp she has got away with it!
Now you say there is "Accountability" well that is a crock because I know 100% of 4 women who were reported for false accusations, the police didn't even go to speak to them about it, told the bloke to "suck it up and be a man" and the bloke still to this day is suffering harm because of those claims all of which were over 15 years ago!
Having consensual sex, then days, weeks, months or years later saying "actually I regret it now, let's just say I said stop during it" and then getting that person charged with Rape or Sexual Assault is a problem, none of the people involved are going to really be able to prove that she said "stop" during the act, it's her word against his and her word means more than his when it comes to these matters, always has and always will.
Rape and Sexual Assault truly damages people, I have seen first hand what it can do to people and it's not something I would wish on anyone.
False accusations I have seen first hand the result of them, again I wouldn't wish it on anyone but unfortunately it's too easy these days for that to happen and it's only going to get worse because it's apparently going to be easier for people to make false accusations and get someone convicted if you look at what Claire Waxman and Mark Rowley want, because someone who is accused basically will not be allowed to defend themselves!
As for your "hypothetical" I have had 2 female family members who have suffered from Sexual Assault and Rape, between me and my brother we spoke to them and told them needed to tell their mum and get the police involved, they cannot allow him to get away with it.
They did that and he got locked up, because they spoke to the police, there was evidence, they were supported and made to understand that what they were doing would protect themselves and others from him.
I don't need a hypothetical, I have real first hand experience with this both sides of it.