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Re: Virgin TV (2026)

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Originally Posted by gunner45 View Post
I'm certain that VM's retirement of its V6s is due to the end of its agreement to use TiVo's middleware. Although nothing has been published, as is common, I think it's reasonable to believe an end date is in 2027.

The TV 360 isn't just a cable box: it's very capable of streaming as well, so VM simply needs to flash firmware over the network to get the box to boot into IP mode and behave exactly like a Stream box. This will be a modified version of the firmware for Stream as it will do some other stuff, e.g. disabling redundant cable tuners and hard disk. VM will do this as it's easy and there is no sense in replacing all 1.5m TV 360s with Streams.
Yes, that would make sense, but the end result would still be streaming only, which isn't what I want.

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Originally Posted by Richardr View Post
Sky and Virgin will not be moving wholly to streaming any time soon. Look how long it is taking to get TIVO and V6 customers to move to 360 boxes - years. Not only that, but if Virgin were seriously moving to streaming only sometime soon, they would not be moving TIVO and V6 customers onto the 360 platform but straight to streaming.

Similarly, I no longer have SkyQ, but up until I cancelled earlier this year I didn't have anyone try and move me to Sky Stream. Sky still have customers on their pre SkyQ boxes.

Whilst virtually all new customers are on Virgin Stream [and Sky Stream], there will come a time when the economics changes, but that is years to come, and I doubt either company knows when that will be.
Let's hope not, but are they still manufacturing the recordable boxes? If not, these boxes are old now and, as they fail with age, a replacement streaming box may well be all that's available.
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