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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Who said that you agree with everything Farage says or does? Playing the victim won't win you the debate. Facts and evidence are a good starting point.
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I don't play the victim, because I am not a victim of anything on here apart from maybe being misunderstood but that happens everywhere, so nothing new and I am quite used to it.
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
This issue is about politicians following the country's laws, with a sub-issue of the reputation of the person making the gift in this instance.
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And Farage is being investigated to see if he has broken any of the laws and requirements, until that matter is resolved, it is something that people will continuously bleat on about but again ignoring everything from other mp's, it's quite frankly hypocritical of people to complain about farage but not others.
As for the "donators/gifters" reputation again, unless there is a ban on that person making "donations/gifts" then it has to be treated like anyone else who "donates/gifts", after all apparently he "donated/gifted" to try and get his Crypto to be used, meanwhile Lord Alli apparently wanted press and security passes for himself and others to Parliament and wanted it kept secret apparently.
Again don't judge one without judging all, if you judge one because of "possible" alternative motives then you have to judge them all as having "possible" alternative motives.
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
If a politician of whatever party has broken the rules by not declaring a gift, then that politician should be called out. And no, we don't need to complain about every gift to every MP in order to point out the rule-breaking here.
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Doesn't matter what the gift is, they should refuse it because it makes them look like they can be bought, that is the problem, it doesn't matter what the gift is, they shouldn't be accepting them!
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Won't treat Starmer the same as Farage? Starmer paid back the gifts, do you want Farage to pay back his £millions of gifts and money? That would be called treating them equally but would bankrupt Farage.
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He paid back a small amount of what he received!
"The repaid items covered by Starmer included:
Taylor Swift Tickets: Six tickets (four from Universal Music Group and two from the Football Association), totaling approximately £3,398.
Horse Racing: Four tickets to the Doncaster Races from the Arena Racing Corporation, costing £1,939.
Personal Support: An £839 clothing rental agreement and a one-hour hair and makeup session for his wife, Lady Victoria Starmer."
Nothing about the decorating of Number 10, nothing about the house/flat for his children, nothing about the football matches, nothing about the full clothes, glasses etc.
And he apparently said that is all he has to pay until a new set of rules is put in place.
Yeah receive tens of thousands or more in "gifts" and claim you only need to pay back around £6k when you get busted for trying to sell yourself!