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Originally Posted by jfman

It’s literally considered occupied by the UN and the ICJ. Far from a trope it’s a widely recognised status by the international community. You of course know this, as I’m sure you know the pretence of the “international rules based order” relies upon believing it.

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There’s no actual evidence that the absence of Hamas would save Palestinians. I appreciate it’s a nice virtual comfort blanket for those who fundamentally don’t believe Palestinians should have human rights to scream “BUT THEY DON’T CONDEMN KHAMAS” but Israel have been blowing up Arabs since it’s very existence and have committed themselves to displacing people on their expansionist project for much the same timeframe.

It’s literally considered occupied by the UN and the ICJ. Far from a trope it’s a widely recognised status by the international community. You of course know this, as I’m sure you know the pretence of the “international rules based order” relies upon believing it.

“The international community”: That would be the one that is loaded with anti-colonialists who are after “reparations”, having trousered and spent the foreign aid they’ve been given for decades.

Then your “widely recognised” point: On day 1 of Israel’s existence, voted into creation by the UN in 1947, the Arab neighbours declared war on Israel and the indigenous Arabs took up arms and formed a resistance. Since then, those same Arab neighbours have made war on Israel several times and Al Fatah terrorised Israel’s civilian population. What you see happening now, is a consequence of anti-Jewish fervour by the ARab neighbours, two of which (Egypt and Jordan) have since made peace with Israel.

So now, following the massacre of October 7th, Israel is doing what it has to do to destroy Hamas.

How would you destroy Hamas, Jfman?

There’s no actual evidence that the absence of Hamas would save Palestinians. I appreciate it’s a nice virtual comfort blanket for those who fundamentally don’t believe Palestinians should have human rights to scream “BUT THEY DON’T CONDEMN KHAMAS” but Israel have been blowing up Arabs since it’s very existence and have committed themselves to displacing people on their expansionist project for much the same timeframe.

Of course there’s “no actual evidence” in terms of your argument. There is “actual evidence” that Hamas and Hezbollah are hell bent on terrorising Israel.

But you’ve widened the argument to Palestinians in general and that means The West Bank. There, Israel is shooting itself in the foot by its appalling behaviour at the behest of the Ultras. This will eventually come back to bite Israel, imo. But it has little to do with Iran’s proxy terrorist agenda.

If you are blind to that then I can only ascribe your attitude to unfortunate prejudice.