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Originally Posted by Carth

I'm starting to go with the earlier mentioned theory that Reform have deliberately scuppered it for themselves, allowing the Burnham chap a win and the prospect of a fight with Starmer.

I also don't think labour will do well in the general election, no matter who the head boy is then, and it's going to be fun seeing the infighting leading up to that.

My good friend Carth makes a strong (hidden) point which I'll try to bring closer to home.

The Makerfield "plumber", by his own pronouncements, typifies the body of Reform UK supporters. What's more, you can spot them as Reform UK types when they are on a TV panel - even the more eloquent ones. The upper echelon, however, are a different breed - some of them defected Tories.

Then you have the more refined types, like OB (may I say?), who are so disappointed with the Tories that they place their faith in Farage.

Then there's me: Farage is great; his upper echelon is very good. Kemi is great; most of her upper echelon are fails. If Kemi will sit down and have a curry with me, I'll help her put the Tories right.

Boy is this country screwed.