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Originally Posted by papa smurf
same here clawed myself out of the gutter,now i'm flopped out on the pavement
socially i refer to myself as upper gutter class,with a few bob in the bank 
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TBH those who rose the way from the gutter know what it is like to be there . Those who never experience true hardship will never understand . I consider myself on the curb but I am on here I just get splashed a bit