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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
One side of me wants Trump to be humiliated for pushing us around. Another side of me wants Starmer humiliated for crapping on our strategic, closest ally - albeit led by a bad egg.
Then both sides of me want the Iran job to be fully completed.
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"Then both sides of me want the Iran job to be fully completed.”
Seph, what is your understanding of 'the Iran job to be fully completed’; is it the death of every single member of the current regime - and if so, what happens then? Is it that Iran ‘is bombed back to the stone age’, irrespective of deaths - because that worked so well in the 1970s in Indo-China.
It’s all vague, one day we have the idiot-in-chief claiming that Iran’s military has been completely OBLITERATED and the war is all but over, and the next day threatening them with MORE ATTACKS in retaliation for them still fighting. Now hang on, even the most fanatical Trump supporter has, surely, to see the obvious issue here?
Despite all the claims to the Iranian people that ‘help is coming’; no it isn’t. This war ends when Israel (who really are the puppet masters here but Trump can’t see it) decides that Iran is not longer a serious threat for the next couple of years. If the current regime is replaced by an even more fanatical and repressive one, so be it - certainly Tel Aviv and Washington won’t care.
Hypothetically Iran slowly rebuilds its nuclear research and weapons capability; it’ll take years maybe a decade and it won't be Netanyahu’s problem - he’ll be long gone.
This whole sorry story has the stench of something not properly thought out; what is the aim, is it feasible and what steps do you have to take to achieve it?
Anyone else remember Bush’s ‘Mission Accomplished’ speech re. Iraq? That went on for years afterwards and cost many, many lives!
America has for long, despite all the evidence, believed that overwhelming firepower will also work and achieve the desired result - it doesn’t. And in this case I don’t think anyone in the US administration actually knows what the desired result is.
I do feel sorry for the real professionals in the US military who must face-palm every time Trump makes a statement!