[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Lol, you still cling onto the lipstick-on-a-pig belief.

That's a meaningless remark, Andrew. The EEC was fine; the EU is bad - at least as currently configured.

But my head is not in the sand. We are so weakened as a country (because of the politicians, not Brexit, not the voters), that we might not even meet the criteria for joining the EU.

Then they'd fudge it to allow us to rejoin because they want out money - top-sliced from the exchequer. It's that fudge (as per Greece) that makes the EU a bad place; it is self-serving, uncompetitive and corrupt.

All we need is an honest government that obtains the voters' trust. Difficult.