[Sephiroth]

But Ratcliffe is right in terms of his main point.

In England and Wales there were 22.2 million people (this includes unknown and abroad cases):

12.2 million were of State Pension Age (including those in receipt of their State Pension), 30% of whom were claiming more than one benefit
9.2 million were of Working Age, 36% of whom were claiming more than one benefit
800,000 were under the age of 16 (and in receipt of DLA as a child)

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...-february-2025

Labour is presiding over these numbers. It's the 9.2 million he was aiming at.