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Sephiroth · Yesterday, 22:23

I suppose this (Greenland) needs some analysis. So here goes (subject to #8 below).

1/
Trump is doing a Putin - but in a different way. I don't need to go into that any further.

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He is blackmailing Europe with a tariff policy that, in the long term, could negatively impact our economic growth as well as Europe's. Problem is, how do we fight back? Diplomacy won't do it; not even licking his arse.

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Europe needs urgently to hold a "what shall we do" conference; this isn't an EU matter - it's a European issue that doesn't need us to be under the Brussels heel. It needs cooperation.

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The first thing that Europe then could do (but see #8), is to implement a "USA not welcome here" policy. Basically, do a Trump. Retaliate. Slap reciprocal tariffs on their products.

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It now looks inevitable that that Europe will have to look after its own defence. We can put the USA on tice to quit its bases in the UK and Europe, including Greenland and give them just a few weeks to implement that.

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All of Europe needs to understand that Trump only understands strength and therefore strength must be shown and further developed in his face.

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The special relationship is all but over. If it is special, Trump can exempt us from his measures without insisting that we lick his arse. The illusion must be snuffed.

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And here is the problem: the associated disruption to business is likely to have dire consequences for European wellbeing. So, one strategy is to string the USA along until the mid-term elections, having sounded out the Democrats as to their opposition to Trump's upsetting the world order. Otherwise, there will be a new world order.

In writing the above, I note that the UK and France have an independent nuclear deterrent, in the UK's case limited to submarines as I understand matters, Then between the European countries we could muster c. 1 million professional soldiers under a unified command. Navies and air forces can be similarly managed and weapons production limited to home grown.

Who's gonna do all that?

Yesterday, 22:23	#2339
Sephiroth Wisdom & truth Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: RG41 Services: RG41: 1Gig VOLT Rutland: Gigaclear 400/400 Posts: 12,739	Re: President Trump 2.0 I suppose this (Greenland) needs some analysis. So here goes (subject to #8 below). 1/ Trump is doing a Putin - but in a different way. I don't need to go into that any further. 2/ He is blackmailing Europe with a tariff policy that, in the long term, could negatively impact our economic growth as well as Europe's. Problem is, how do we fight back? Diplomacy won't do it; not even licking his arse. 3/ Europe needs urgently to hold a "what shall we do" conference; this isn't an EU matter - it's a European issue that doesn't need us to be under the Brussels heel. It needs cooperation. 4/ The first thing that Europe then could do (but see #8), is to implement a "USA not welcome here" policy. Basically, do a Trump. Retaliate. Slap reciprocal tariffs on their products. 5/ It now looks inevitable that that Europe will have to look after its own defence. We can put the USA on tice to quit its bases in the UK and Europe, including Greenland and give them just a few weeks to implement that. 6/ All of Europe needs to understand that Trump only understands strength and therefore strength must be shown and further developed in his face. 7/ The special relationship is all but over. If it is special, Trump can exempt us from his measures without insisting that we lick his arse. The illusion must be snuffed. 8/ And here is the problem: the associated disruption to business is likely to have dire consequences for European wellbeing. So, one strategy is to string the USA along until the mid-term elections, having sounded out the Democrats as to their opposition to Trump's upsetting the world order. Otherwise, there will be a new world order. In writing the above, I note that the UK and France have an independent nuclear deterrent, in the UK's case limited to submarines as I understand matters, Then between the European countries we could muster c. 1 million professional soldiers under a unified command. Navies and air forces can be similarly managed and weapons production limited to home grown. Who's gonna do all that? __________________ *Seph.* My advice is at your risk.