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Old 06-10-2025, 21:00   #1952
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Originally Posted by damien c View Post
This is my opinion, you may not like it, that is your choice, if you don't that is fine, it you do that is also fine, it's not going to change my opinion about anyone and unless something is put in front that I find a fitting argument, it's not going to change my opinion.
fine….taken as read really, but I’m happy you could express yourself.

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To me we should not be sending millions/billions of pounds to Ukraine to support them in a war that they have been fighting for hundreds of years, this latest war has been active since 2014, I notice how we were not sending them Millions/Billions back then!
Back when?

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Russia and Ukraine will never fully stop fighting, until Ukraine is part of NATO, then you will find Russia will stop because as mad as Putin is, he doesn't really want all out war with NATO because he knows Russia will be wiped of the face of the planet, as will anywhere that he decides to fire his nukes at, NATO and Russia going to war is mutually assured destruction and has the potential for being as bad for the planet as a massive asteroid hitting it, like the one that killed of the Dinosaurs!!
Ukraine will not be part of NATO whilst this conflict is unresolved. That’s a fact.

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At the moment the UK has apparently got some random number between £20bn and £10000000000000000000000000000000tn pound black hole, the number changes depending on how much the clown in charge wants to tax everyone and steal from everyone.

So we have that massive black hole in the finances, but we continue to fund a war that has nothing to do with us, is not going to stop anytime soon, is doing nothing to us but causing all of our bills to sky rocket due to taxes and even when it's "over" is not going to change our lives at all in any way shape or form because all the money that we were sending to Ukraine, will be allocated to some other country who is at war, that again will more than likely have nothing to do with us, not affect us in way until we start funding one side of it.
Well it won’t be over by joining NATO. So we will just keep funding it.

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We in this country according to the Government cannot look after our own, we cannot provide enough doctors, nurses, dentists, police officers, fire fighters, paramedics etc etc because the funding is not there, but somehow we can find a couple of million to send to Zelenski when he comes begging, can find a couple of million to send to Netanyahu when he asks for it, can find £50m to send to a terrorist organisation who are now in charge of Syria, can find millions each month to fund hotels, prioritised health care, free education, free food, free travel, free entertainment etc for illegal immigrants and asylum seekers, find millions each month or year to fund nutjob millibands energy BS, oh and don't forget £65k a year for Raving Rayner to have a personal photographer!

So not I think we have more important things in this country that we should be spending the money on that Rachel Thieves steals from us on a daily basis, instead of funding never ending wars, personal vanity projects of a bunch of criminals in government!

We are a part of NATO, we should defend and support NATO countries, all the rest can look after themselves until we are capable of looking after ourselves.
I refer you to your previous point about Ukraine joining NATO.

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If you want to try and change my mind, go for it, open to hearing what people want to say, I just don't think anyone can say why we should tell people in this country "You should pay 1000% more for food, so that we can send X Country money to buy bombs and bullets".
No, you’ve done a great job.
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