[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

What Israel will never give up include Jerusalem and any point of military advantage (Golan).

Nothing wrong with that. The Arabs in 1956, 1967, 1972 etc should not have attacked Israel. That's what Israel's up against in this missile age.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I've not traditionally seen Israel as a terrorist state and there's a lot about the country I've admired. But it has changed and its activities over the last two years mean it warrants the label.

Netanyahu's really just focused on his own survival and not being held to account for his part in not preventing 7/10. And shooting and evicting people from their own houses in the West Bank is more than harassment.

No one is going to pretend any solution - one-state or two-state will be easy. But it's good that recognition by Western countries comes with Hamas being excluded.

I've not traditionally seen Israel as a terrorist state and there's a lot about the country I've admired. But it has changed and its activities over the last two years mean it warrants the label.

That's a disgraceful thing to say. Remember October 7th - the trigger for what's happening now.

Netanyahu's really just focused on his own survival and not being held to account for his part in not preventing 7/10. And shooting and evicting people from their own houses in the West Bank is more than harassment.

Agreed on Netanyahu focusing on self-survival. But how the hell could he have prevented 7/10? The shooting/evictions you mentioned are indeed a stain on Netanyahu's government but it doesn't brand Israel as a terrorist state; that's going too far.