[damien c]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

If government could easily intercept all communications they wouldn't need all the hassle of this sort of bill. I am sure their capabilities are greater than is known but I am equally sure that some platforms are secure enough to make their jobs much harder and can be hardened further if desired.


Additionally encryption can also be coupled with signing to ensure communication isn't interfered with en-route. And yes there are ways to break this, proxies that decrypt contents then reencrypt can hide that activity but having their certificates in the trust store of the client.


But why shouldn't we be able to communicate securely without any old bad actor in the middle being able to read such. We should also look forward, even if the government now is "trustworthy", what about any future government?

The Governments have access to far greater technology when it comes to encryption cracking than we do, they also have far greater technology when it comes to interception, decryption, surveillance etc than people think they do.

BT wanted to use Phorm in 2008, for "Targeted Adverts" which would even if using a VPN and Encryption, open the packets of data transmitted, read the information, re-encrypt it and send it on to it's destination, and then shove ad's in your browser based of the content it "sniffed" from your data transmission.

That sort of thing is used now and the governments etc do nothing about it, because they are also gaining information from it.

They don't even have to do that though anymore they can quite easily just stick a keylogger on your machine, have it signed to say it's an "Official Security" update and forced on to every piece of tech possible under "National Security" reasons and you will never know it's on your pc because it will just be integrated into a service on Windows etc.

That would completely get around any encryption because as you type it would be recording it and sending it off to where ever, before you even send the message/email etc.


I honestly would not be surprised soon to find our traitorous government forcing all Operating System Developers to create a "UK Specific" build and forcing it on our systems with penalty of prison or extreme fines for not using it, which would give them complete access to the system to monitor typing, speech, video files etc in order to make sure you don't do anything that they don't like.

North Korea will soon look like paradise with the way this current government and previous government want to go, and it would appear the EU want to go to the same levels as well.

But these are the only clowns we can vote in, and there will be no change even if Reform get in at the next election when they have so many of the current MP's defecting to them, that essentially they will be a combination of both parties with the worst of each!