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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Little point in discussing Reform's immigration plans as they will have changed by the time you've finished posting!  |
Refined, you mean. They have working groups looking to work out ways and means that their policy ideas are presented and enacted. Still 4 years to go. Have we heard much yet about what the other parties are proposing to do after the next election?
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
They're safe in many countries but how is that relevant? Most refugees, asylum seekers and economic migrants stay in Europe but don't come to the UK.
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Yes, and how are Germany and Sweden faring with their open door policies?
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Talking about immigration plays into Reform's hands. Labour should be talking about the NHS and policy areas where it polls strongest in. Farage has successfully got the media and nation discussing his agenda where Reform polls strongest on.
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Don't you believe it. People around here are beginning to despair about the inefficidncy and waste that goes on in the NHS and the inconsistency of service. Farage has better answers, somit doesn't really matter what Labour concentrate on. They know they've lost the Beneral Election 2029 already.
You are totally missing the elephant in the room, which is that Farage is talking about what concerns most people, and he's the only one with the guts to deliver.
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
They're just clever populists saying what they need to say to get elected. They're not worried about balancing the books or having a strategy for productivity and growth.
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Of course they have. You've just closed your ears to what Farage is actually saying.
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Originally Posted by Carth
Apparently we need immigration to help the economy grow, while businesses are laying off staff or closing.
On the other hand:
If you want your nails painted a pretty colour - 6 establishments per square mile.
Fancy chicken nuggets and fries? - 17 establishments per square mile.
Need that hair cutting? - 8 establishments per square mile.
Getting the car washed - 12 establishments per square mile.
Need advice on home energy efficiency? - you'll usually get an unsolicited phone call 7 times a day
Planning a train journey? - check the 'strikes' timetable
Need a doctors appointment? - set the alarm for 7:30 am and get in the phone queue to grab one of the 7 appointments available
Have a query about a change of disability benefits? - expect being shunted around on the phone all day and still get no answer.
Need a dentist? - good luck on that one.
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We need
targeted immigration.
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
When Labour tries to shift their narrative, they are brought straight back to thevFarage agenda.
But Reform should look beyond that and study what needs to be done for the economy, get it endorsed by theIFS etc, and beme fully credible.
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Reform will grow the economy by bringing back the wealth creators, make trading easier, cut waste in the Civil Service, abolish unnecessary legislation that discourages small businesses and innovation and stop unnecessary government spending. The detailed plans will be laid out before the election.