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Chris & Pierre, I took an interest in your earlier discussion about ceding terrortory to Russia to stop the war.

The one thing both of you have missed is that neither Zelensky nor the Ukrainian Gorernment can do so, their constitution expressly forbids it.

To be able to cede any terrortory would need a reforendom to change the constitution, that would be impossible without a controlled genuine cease fire so that everyone can vote, just the same as an election. You cannot expect people to gather to vote for either to be hit by Russian missiles. Then there is the Ukrainiasn diaspora, do they get to vote ?

Chris was entirely correct when he said they would not give up Free Donbas, the most fortified both natural and constructed stronghold in the country.

BTW Chris, they have drones that can go 1000kms the new Cruise Missile named Flamingo (due to a manufacturing error in production of the first few turned out pink!) has a range of 3000km with a 11500kg warhead. (Edit) one per day to develop 7 per day by end of October.

Pierre, you obviously don't know otr understand the Ukrainian people, they will never surrender, never give terrortory to anyone. Either Russia is defeated (and they can do it) or they cease to exist. They are now developing and producing their own weapons to do it.