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Old 28-07-2025, 09:34   #626
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post

You can't leave the ECHR as we would wave goodbye to our trade deal with Europe and beyond
. It's opposition party nonsense which makes the LibDems manifesto pledge of no university fees look like a realistic proposition! You've seen the economy struggle and unlawful immigration rise because of Brexit. How many more fairy tales do you need to read before you face up to reality that there are no lazy quick fixes?
We could, actually. You are being negative again.The UK-EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement does not explicitly require ECHR membership, although technically the parts of it relating to law enforcement and security 'may be suspended' (Article 524). However, trade would not be impacted as you have strongly implied here.

Other trade agreements would not be affected at all by our withdrawing from the ECHR.

The economic impact of our leaving the EU has not been the disaster that remainers had predicted, and the EU is desperate to try to prove otherwise, given that some countries are considering leaving the EU. Poland, for example, is facing daily fines for continuing to prevent uncontrolled immigration into the country. If the EU can persuade those countries that the disadvatages of doing so outweigh the advantages, it will make them think twice.
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