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Old 22-07-2025, 10:25   #604
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
Can or won't?

Reform have indicated they are going to make changes to our system of taxation. They have come up with alternative plans for non doms as well.Here's one of them. We'll know the exact details of more changes when we see his manifesto.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/ta...les-will-work/

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[I]The Reform UK leader promised sweeping tax breaks for married couples in a bid to boost birth rates and make family “a more important element in British life”. Estimates suggest it would save the average couple almost £2,500 a year in tax.

Currently, workers pay 20pc income tax on earnings between £12,570 and £50,270. Under Reform’s plans, one spouse would be spared from paying tax on the first £25,000 of income. It means a worker earning £50,000 would save about £2,500 in income tax.

The party has already vowed to raise the tax-free allowance from £12,571 to £20,000, which estimates suggest could cost as much as £80bn. On top of this, it has promised to raise the higher rate threshold from £50,270 to £70,000, to release the millions more workers being dragged by stealth into the top rate band, shown in the chart below.

If Reform delivered on all three promises, a worker earning £70,000 would be better off by almost £6,500.
I don't see increasing a few allowances and increasing a tax band or two up as completely changing our system of taxation. The system has always accommodated these types of changes. As Reform UK have found when in power in councils, their wriggle room is somewhat limited.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
That’s a stretch, Russ. Why do you say that? The Conservatives were ready to fly the first illegals to Rwanda but the election put paid to that.

The main issue they had was the legal machinery that the human rights lawyers were able to exploit. Pull out of the ECHR and substitute the Refugee Convention 1951 and it’s 1967 Protocol for a UK Bill of Rights and put us back to where we thought we were when the Agreement was first passed, updated to be relevant for the 21st Century.

The problem is that successive governments and court over-reach have painted us into a corner which has resulted in us not being able to do anything anymore. This must change. If legislation or belonging to some sort of treaty gets in the way of what we want to do, we re-negotiate or abolish it. That’s the way to get things done.

We don’t need any more ‘can’t do’ governments - we need a ‘can do’ government which can achieve what so many people are demanding from our politicians.
You can't leave the ECHR as we would wave goodbye to our trade deal with Europe and beyond. It's opposition party nonsense which makes the LibDems manifesto pledge of no university fees look like a realistic proposition! You've seen the economy struggle and unlawful immigration rise because of Brexit. How many more fairy tales do you need to read before you face up to reality that there are no lazy quick fixes?
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