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Originally Posted by Itshim
Be nice if it worked here.
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What makes you think it doesn't?
From what I have seen, it appears that all posts are (mostly) treated with respect, yes they can be disagreed with, be argued with; but that's not wrong, that's fine.
Yes disagree with someone else's viewpoint or feeling, or how they see themselves; that's OK; argue it but do it with respect for them and respect for their viewpoint.
There is a post further up this thread which refers to 'mental illness'. Now OK, I sort of get what the poster is referring to, but 'illness', implies something 'wrong' which presumably could be 'cured'. No, no. they are not ill, their biology is slightly different to the rest of us, fine, they are perfectly normal human beings. Maybe we just need to accommodate the reality that not everyone nicely fits into a binary set.
Now having said that, we have an obvious issue one person's rights might well collide with another's. I have to agree with the recent Supreme Court's ruling, 'can a trans woman, have the absolute right to access a women-only space'? And I have to come down on the side of no.
And I'm sorry, I'm sure there are many, many trans-women who feel they have been marginalised, they genuinely see themselves as women and feel discriminated against (which, I suppose technically they are), but still!
There's not an easy, obvious solution, and if anyone has any ideas, I'm more than happy to see them.
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Jaymoss has it more right than jem, imo.
You can see exactly what Jaymoss means in this two-tier thought police UK we live in.
jem, on the other hand is plugging democracy and free speech, which is not where the UK is heading under present trends.
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OK yes I see what you mean, but by 'here' I meant on this forum; which I still maintain is fairly neutral and open to entertain a wide range of opinions.
But yes there have been a few, somewhat alarming incidences reported as late And this is wrong, absolutely wrong and the police absolutely have to be held to account for some, not all, of their actions.
Incidentally, totally off topic, are you the same Seph as posts on the Virgin Media forums?