[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Surely, if the universe is eternal, anything can happen within the bounds of the laws of physics (whatever those bounds may be). If there's a future (which there obviously is) there is still time for more things to happen.

The logic of the universe that I'm putting forward is that it cannot have been created because anything that might have caused its creation then has to be explained; which it cannot be.

The big bang is not precluded by my logic it's just that it needn't have happened. If it did happen, then logically I surmise that it happened as soon as the singularity had formed because the elementary particles in there would be in chaos from which the instability could have occurred. But it comes back to one thing: The material of the universe has always existed together with any means of creating matter to replace that which is mutually destroyed.

Thing is when something can not be explained literally nothing can be disclaimed therefore it might have been created no one can say for sure it was not . They can profess it loudly often violently but no one knows