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Originally Posted by jfman

There’s no evidence that Israel wouldn’t have continued its borderline genocidal campaign even if Hamas had released the hostages. The aim is to “eliminate Hamas”; with such a broad definition as to include the destruction of schools, mosques, churches, universities, hospitals, energy infrastructure and turning off the water supply.

It’s a simplistic retort to absolve Israel from blame - nothing more and nothing less.

Even if Israel had stated that as their position - why would anyone trust them not to move the goalposts? Just as we went from “we don’t bomb hospitals” to “we do bomb hospitals”, and “we don’t summarily execute medical workers” to “well, now that there’s a video, maybe we made mistakes”.

It's still on Hamas for their October 2023 atrocity. And how else would Israel eliminate Hamas (a necessity imo) other than by military action.

Furthermore, nobody has been able to verify the civilian deaths. Make no mistake, it is sad that civilians (who voted for Hamas on an anti-Israel ticket) have died. But how, other than military action, can Hamas be removed/neutralised.


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Originally Posted by ianch99

The irony. The 'phrase From the river to the sea' does indeed say it all. From the Likud original party charter:

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...he-likud-party



This gives you some context as to what motivates the current Israeli administrations mindset.

The existing Israeli government are bad eggs; I think we all agree on that. But even they had to deal with the October 2023 Hamas atrocity.

'From the river to the sea' is the expression used on London's streets promoting the extinction of Israel.