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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
That's stretching it beyond safe bounds.
I accept that the conversation, by not acknowledging genuine trans cases (Male-->Female), seems to deprecate said genuine cases. But we are not that harsh nor unreasonable. The real issue here is about men with appendages that are either perverts or make women uncomfortable when the biological man undresses.
There is surgery available for genuine M-F cases.
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There are no genuine male - female cases, or vice versa. Male and female are biological categories. Biology is immutable. This is the same point I was making the other day vis a vis your use of the phrase “biological gender.” Activist language has made it deliberately difficult to discuss these issues clearly and we must be exceptionally precise in what we mean in order to combat it.
Someone who genuinely believes that they are in the ‘wrong body’ has a psychological illness exactly the same as people who self harm, or people with anorexia. It is a disordered belief. It *might* - though I am far from convinced - be appropriate treatment to surgically alter someone so they resemble the opposite sex, but years ago, even when we used to erroneously call such operations a “sex change”, those undergoing them had to sign a form declaring that they understood they would not actually change sex. Today, surgically altering someone who has a psychological disorder that tells them they are in the ‘wrong body’ does not cure anything because surgery cannot, fundamentally, give them the ‘right body’.