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Old 11-03-2025, 15:06   #3274
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
I’m not sure how pointing out the reality before you makes anyone a Trump and/or Putin apologist. It’s not mere “semantics” to point out Trump pledged - in an election campaign of all places - to end the war quickly as possible. It has ceased to be in American national interest according to those who define the national interest. America has no duty to Ukraine or Ukrainian nationalism, any more than it had to Iraq, Afghanistan or all the other places it has cut and run from.

There’s no “winning” for Ukraine on the table. That’s just a collective delusion. A hangover from the “Russia is on its knees” kool aid.
Trusting a politician's pre-election pledges is a one-way ticket to disappointment. Judge politicians by what they do.

In the case of Trump, it's been to throw Ukraine under the bus and repeat Putin's talking points...even when they're wrong.

You only have to look at Trump's support for Israel to see that he is not applying some global disarming strategy across the world to bring peace or has a philosophy around a national interest. He's just doing what Putin (and Netanyahu) hoped he would do to support them...and some!
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