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Originally Posted by ianch99
Made me smile when you point out that Trump is visibly betraying his erstwhile allies and taking Putin's side, so much so that the Russians are openly thanking him, the Trump/Putin apologists focus on the semantics of the vocabulary used rather than the reality before them. 
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I’m not sure how pointing out the reality before you makes anyone a Trump and/or Putin apologist. It’s not mere “semantics” to point out Trump pledged - in an election campaign of all places - to end the war quickly as possible. It has ceased to be in American national interest according to those who define the national interest. America has no duty to Ukraine or Ukrainian nationalism, any more than it had to Iraq, Afghanistan or all the other places it has cut and run from.
There’s no “winning” for Ukraine on the table. That’s just a collective delusion. A hangover from the “Russia is on its knees” kool aid.