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Old 04-03-2025, 19:22   #3228
jfman
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
Observing that Ukraine can never be secure while Russia controls so much of its Black Sea coast, and especially Crimea, is not bloodthirsty or forever-war-ish. It is a statement of objective strategic fact. Ukraine has regained freedom to operate cargo vessels in the western Black Sea by bombing the Russian navy out of Sevastopol. In the event of a truce, Russia can and will rebuild its naval presence there (and it will doubtless also sail a great many ships in from elsewhere to rapidly make up for its losses).
Taken to extreme Ukraine can never be secure while it borders Russia.

That doesn’t mean it makes any objective strategic sense to fight a war until one, or the other, doesn’t exist. Especially in the absence of skills or resources for the one left to be Ukraine.

In the event of a truce the onus is on everyone to take all steps they reasonably can to offer Ukraine security positioning themselves to readily mobilise in the event of future conflict.

But they won’t, because it was never about that and it’ll cost too much money. Donations to Ukraine are out and cheap Russian gas is in. Won’t be long before London reunites the oligarchs with their billions and asks them to invest. Don’t hold it against us, please. A big boy made us do it.

Last edited by jfman; 04-03-2025 at 19:54.
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