[ianch99]

Is not the reality we now face is that Trump (or "Agent Orange" as he is being referred to on social media) is effectively negotiating on behalf of Putin. This is very clear to all. He is more interested in making money out of what is left of Ukraine up until the time his handler decide to claim the remaining parts at which point he will say "I'm out of here".

What the Trump/Putin apologists are not addressing is the question of trust. If Putin is given the land he has taken and then says: "Ok, I'll stop here and won't proceed further", who on this planet actually believes him, apart from Trump. Until Trump gives in and guarantees a USA military response, in conjunction with Europe, Putin will not be stopped.

Of course, this does not address the invasion and 20% of Ukraine he has taken. If a ceasefire deal is done along the current front line with a US backstop then Putin is rewarded for aggression. Not a good precedent.