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Old 28-02-2025, 20:30   #3154
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
Trump can't help himself but Vance should know better. That literally was two people against one, and it wasn't in Zalenskyy's native language. Two people who can sleep soundly at night knowing that their country isn't being invaded and one person in fear of his life and his country's very existence.
Three or more people. Marje Taylor-Greene’s boyfriend was in the press pack and got a question (he works for a minor cable news network while, oddly, the Associated Press Press did not get in). He is the one asking Zelenskyy if he owns a suit and why he’s disrespecting the Oval Office by not wearing one. I was going to say “as if he doesn’t know Zelenskyy’s vow to wear simple fatigue-like clothes while he is sending soldiers to their deaths” but in fact I can well believe he was thick enough not to know.

Notwithstanding, the whole thing was choreographed. There may have been a “he signed the deal” version of that performance as well, but this was very much the “he didn’t sign the deal” version.

This, for folk who have never had to deal with a real-life narcissist themselves, is precisely what real-life narcissists do once they finally realise they can’t control you.

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So, could the EU and UK make a minerals deal with Ukraine instead? Not to pay off what they've spent assisting Ukraine, but to help Ukraine finance its long-term defence against Russia.
I believe Macron already suggested that to Zelenskyy. The risk is that such a deal would have to be backed by European military guarantees. Europe is not however ready for open confrontation with Russia and Putin is liable to test their resolve with incremental escalation against European forces in a way he simply wouldn’t against the US.
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