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Old 25-01-2025, 21:07   #62
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles

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Originally Posted by Russ View Post
Reform failed in both council by-elections yesterday.

They’ve won just 7 council seats from 179 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.

Impressive stuff….
I don’t think you understand. Farage is looking to the next council elections with his newly selected candidates in a major push that will give the electorate more confidence to vote for them nationally in 2029.

The figures you have just quoted are irrelevant.

The party hasn’t started yet, and you are a party pooper.

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Originally Posted by Russ View Post
I’ll say.

5 Council By-Elections during the week.

Reform UK failed to win any.

They’ve won only 7 seats from 184 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

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Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
In terms of electoral seats they are far behind and always will be whilst we have our wonderful electoral system and a divided right wing.
Not true. They just need to build up their party member base in every constituency, which I think is entirely possible. Live and learn.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
That's why I think Farage will do a deal with the Conservative Party.

To date, he's been very keen to put a clean line between his political parties and the BNP. He's also not supported Tommy Robinson to any great extent; compare his considered approach with that of Musk and other lesser-informed right-wingers.

It was interesting briefly watching the Reform UK Conference in Surrey on YouTube last week. The comments were flooded with supporters berating the Party for not coming out in whole-hearted support for Tommy Robinson. I suspect that Farage knows he'll still have these supporters backing him though.

Farage needs to keep his party as clean as possible if he's going into an electoral pact with the Conservative Party and potentially power in the next election. If that means falling out with Musk and foregoing Musk's money and influence then so be it. Farage understands how our electoral system works and Musk understands how space rockets work. But not vice versa.

I'm afraid that Cameron could well have opened Pandora's box.
I don’t think he will win the Conservative Party over. It’s more likely that the right wing of the Conservative Party may defect to Farage, strengthening his position in that way.

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Originally Posted by Russ View Post
I’ll say.

5 Council By-Elections during the week.

Reform UK failed to win any.

They’ve won only 7 seats from 184 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.
This means nothing. The real test will be the next council elections. If they fail then, I will agree with your sentiments.
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