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Originally Posted by nomadking
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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
Anyone got a link to this alleged circular that Gordon Brown sent to all police forces?
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Nazir Afzal, a solicitor, became the Chief Prosecutor of the North West in 2011 and he, being of Pakistani heritage, didn’t suffer from the political correctness that had stopped earlier prosecutions of the Muslim rape/grooming gangs. He was vigorous in the prosecution of the Rochdale gangs.
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In this interview which took place on 19th October 2018 Mr Afzal said,
“You may not know this, but back in 2008, the Home Office sent a circular to all Police forces in the country saying, ‘As far as these young girls who are being exploited in towns and cities, we beieve that they have made an informed choice about their sexual behaviour and therefore it is not for you police officers to get involved in’
If that’s the landscape coming from the top down in 2008, rest assured all agencies are going to listen to it.”
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Considering alcohol, drugs, and threats of violence were involved, along with the girls being well under 16, not sure where the "informed choice" comes from.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_English_Review
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The New English Review is an online monthly magazine of cultural criticism, published from Nashville, Tennessee, since February 2006.[1] Scholars note the magazine to have platformed a range of far-right Islamophobic discourse including conspiracy theories. An eponymous press is run by the same publisher.[1]
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https://x.com/jacqui_smith1/status/1...Fx9lsEXWlOa1jg
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Nazir Azfal
Dozens of police officers told me Home Office Circular 17/2008 on child abuse had supporting guidelines (issued by whom I don’t know) which referred to children making an “informed choice”
Never seen it (I’m not police) & certainly no Minister would have needed to agree it
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He’s referring to the Home Office Circular which I referred to earlier, which has no reference to children making an "informed choice"…
https://webarchive.nationalarchives....2008/017-2008/
The only times "informed" is used within this Circular are
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Informing the child
34.The initiating officer should communicate and keep the child informed throughout. The initiating officer should take account of the child's wishes as part of the decision making process and on matters of arrangements involved in being taken into police protection.
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47. Once a local authority has been informed by the police that a child is in police protection, section 47 requires them to make or cause to be made any necessary enquiries which would enable them to decide whether or not they should take any action to safeguard or promote the child's welfare.
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67. The refuges (Children's Home and Foster Placement) Regulations 1991 provide that, within 24 hours of a child being admitted to a refuge, the person providing the refuge should notify the police officers authorised by the chief officer for the purpose of the Regulations of the child's admission, his/her name (if known) and his/her last permanent address (if known). Outside office hours, it is likely that notification of an admission will be received initially by the officer on duty. If the name of the child is known, the duty officer should search the Police National Computer Missing Persons (PNC MISPERS) Index and notify the authorised officer of the child's last permanent address. He/she should ensure that the authorised officer is informed of the admission as soon as possible.
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The word "choice" is not used in the Circular at all…
Further to Mr M’s post above, the word "prostitute" (with or without the word "child" in front of it) does not appear in the Circular Mr Azfal refers to.
There have been multiple FOI applications to the Home Office, the CPS, and various Police Forces about any Circulars which supports this accusation, and they all turn up empty….