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Old 02-01-2025, 23:03   #6109
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
But you can use it to hold politicians accountable. Whether we do so or not is up to all of us. There’s nothing distracting about the phrase ‘supra-national’ - it is the very heart of the principle. The proposition was that Brexit is to blame for pollution incidents in the UK but that is obvious nonsense. As we are outside the EU it is our regulatory regime that is the sole factor at play. If our regulations are inadequate, the solution is to pester our politicians to fix it, not to abnegate responsibility in favour of a foreign bureaucracy with the power to extract money from the British economy in order to spend it on projects in Eastern Europe (or Ursula Von Der Lying’s private jet, take your pick).

Everything in the Lib Dem press release lurking behind the report in today’s ’I’ can ultimately be solved by British politicians enacting regulations with teeth, or if they won’t do so, by replacing them with ones that will. Bleating on about the ability of a foreign organisation’s willingness to swoop in and do it for us is a waste of time.
Again more deflection. I said that as part of the EU we were held to a common standard whereas now we are not. You can apply this to many sectors. Lots more double speak about "foreign bureaucracy", "extract money from the British economy", etc. The fact is for 40 years this country did very, very well from being part of a common market, yes, Thatcher's common market. Wrenching out an economy that had 40 years of free trade wiring and expecting not to lose billions is naive. Proclaiming sovereignty dogma and waving the union jack won't stump up the 40-odd billion every year or stop the decline.

You cannot complain about the Lib Dems doing what Farage & Crew did in spades in the run up to 2016. I mean he wrote the playbook. Going on about the evil EU or the miracles of blessed sovereignty won't change the historical record of the previous 40 years and the fact that no one cared about EU membership until the populist grifters turned up.
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