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Old 25-12-2024, 21:50   #769
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

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Originally Posted by ianch99 View Post
I rarely read your posts because they are so toxic but why don't you try and engage with the debate in hand instead of just insulting people you disagree with?
I wasn’t insulting you.

However.

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Isn't the real question what those that did vote Trump really think they voted for?
They believed the US was heading in the wrong direction.

Unlimited, undocumented, illegal immigration.

Fentanyl epidemic.

Gender/Trans Ideology.

Critical Race Theory

Wage depression.

They voted against all that and more.

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They knew all about his lying, raping, etc.
They know he’s no angel, far from it.

But they could see the machine of government, media and judiciary working to shut him down, silence and preferably imprison him on suspect charges…..i.e, the “raping”

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but this did not change their decision.
Because they saw through it.

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So, they either ignored what he said he would do (tariffs, immigrants, cuts to state funding, etc.) because he is a liar so assumed he would not do these things or they believed he would do these things and ignored the fact that he lies.
No they voted for those things, and knew that he’s no worse a liar than Harris, Biden et Al, and is worth the risk.

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You support Trump so please explain why his policies will make the poorer folk, the ones one that voted for him, better off when all the evidence suggests otherwise.
It’s not just about the economy, but regardless of all the “evidence”, people think they were better off under the previous Trump administration

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Start with:

- tariffs
Potentially may protect US jobs, may have downsides, will have to see.

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- mass deportations
Well I believe it was deporting illegal criminal immigrants, what’s bad about that?

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- massive cuts to federal departments
Cutting back bloated government spending…..all good.

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massive tax cuts for the ultra rich & corporations
Haven’t seen any details but cutting corporation tax, encouraging investment, removing barriers in regulation would all be good…………something Starmer and Reeves could take note of.
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