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Old 25-11-2024, 16:49   #1451
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees View Post
I didn’t say they were , I asked you if based on your statement that ‘Israel must do what it has to do’ and your previous statements of similar nature. does that include and/or justify the death of every single innocent Palestinian to ensure the destruction of Hamas .

It is a simple question and can be quite simply answered, the fact that you can’t or won’t answer it and dodge it with statements such as ‘I don’t have to play by your rules’ which is rather hypocritical position to take when you use exactly the same closed question type. For reference ‘are you a terrorist sympathiser’ leads to two possible scenarios

1. You’re doing your usual which appears to be being deliberately confrontational in order to provoke a reaction.

2. You do believe that Israel are justified (and actively should) murder every single innocent Palestinian if it means they can eradicate Hamas. However you won’t openly admit it because you know what that would make you.

I hope it’s 1. But I believe it’s 2. I’d wager that most of the board know exactly what you’re advocating for, the only person you don’t want to admit it too is yourself.
I admire your tenacity but I very much doubt he is going to say the quiet bit out loud. He is quite content with the Israelis killing innocent Palestinians. In many peoples eyes, their lives literally have no value and this will lead the West to a very dark place in the future. The idea of "Western Values" is now so eroded so when we try and set some moral position in a future conflict, it will have little or no value.

As an illustration, a week or so ago, a British surgeon who spent some time in Gaza trying to help those injured by the IDF, described Israel bombing refugee camps (link) and after the bomb had been dropped, drones followed up to shoot the injured women & children lying on the ground:

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The 62-year-old surgeon told MPs: "What I found particularly disturbing was that a bomb would drop, maybe on a crowded, tented area and then the drones would come down."

His face shook with emotion as he paused for several seconds to compose himself.

He continued: "The drones would come down and pick off civilians - children.

"We [were] operating on children who would say: 'I was lying on the ground after a bomb had dropped and this quadcopter came down and hovered over me and shot me.'

"That's clearly a deliberate act and it was a persistent act - persistent targeting of civilians day after day."

Prof Mamode, former clinical lead of transplant surgery at Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust in London, said it was a "very consistent story".

He added: "The bullets that the drones fire are these small cuboid pellets and I fished a number of those out of the abdomen of small children. I think the youngest I operated on was a three-year-old.

"These pellets were in a way more destructive than bullets.

"With the drone pellets, what I found was they would go in and they would bounce around so they would cause multiple injuries.

"I had a seven-year-old boy... He had an injury to his liver, spleen, bowel, arteries, so quite extensive destruction from a single entry point.

"He survived that and went out a week later."
This was not headline news with the BBC burying it in the "local news section". Says it all ...
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