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Originally Posted by Chris
The polls were scattered all over the place, which happens when the race is close - and it has been close. As of right now Trump’s sitting on 51.1% - yes, he’s comfortably taken the electoral college but the final tally of EC votes will flatter him.
I’m not going to lie, I’m disappointed in America and the large number of Americans who have been willing to overlook far too much. He’s a convict, a rapist, a con man and a mysoginist. I’m especially disappointed in the great swathes of Evangelical so-called Christians who have been willing to overlook his character in pursuit of one or two policies he is personally only lukewarm about.
I *hope* you’re right, and he spends the next 4 years not doing all the things he threatened to do. I *hope* it was all just a pantomime act to get votes. But at this point I’m not convinced.
And on that point, the Ukraine war isn’t going to end just because Trump said he’d end it. Ukraine, and the whole of Esastern Europe, is about to get a whole lot more dangerous because Putin *believes* he has Trump in his pocket and that will embolden him. Though right now I’m angrier at the Biden admin that has constantly spoken warm words about Ukraine while only ever doing just enough to prevent it from collapsing.
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
We and them have to learn from this and previous elections and referendums and stop the rich and powerful manipulating them for their own ends, I thought it sucked massively when Russia's oligarchs ruled the roost only for it to turn out they were the puppets, not the master and this is worse imo. The betting market is pointing to Donny simply because of a few massive bets being placed in his favour and I'm pretty sure their will be examples on the other side too and imho it's got to stop, this manipulation and misinformation harms democracy and legitimacy to levels where an alternative form of government may seem preferable to many.
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Got a nasty feeling we were wrong to hope for the best, just based on his cabinet picks so far, who tbh seem to be there out of fealty rather than ability to do the job, certainly in Noam, Rubio, Habba and Homan casses, Homan incidentally authored Project 2025 that donnie doesn’t know anything about, one who does have ability is Susie Wiles but I'd be surprised if she lasts in that circus, she may even walk away herself, the thing the rest have in common is complete loyalty to donnie and the defence of him.
I see donnies vow to end the Ukraine war the day after winning the presidency, not after inauguration but simply winning it were hollow, vlad the insaner is denying even taking donnies call and has instead decided to make the state tv station to show nude images of the new first lady, how's that for a massive FU. Don't hold much hope for a cease fire I gaza and Lebanon either, not with Rubio and Huckerbee in post.
Been seeing a fair few examples of buyers remorse too, people who thought ACA and Obama care were different things, people who didn't know how tariffs work and immigrants worried it might be them or family members getting deported, its like brexit all over again only with far worse individual consequences. See Elmo is getting a fantastic return on investment too, mind you I've lost 6000 followers on twitter because of donnies win, so thanks elmo.