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Originally Posted by Damien
They can grasp it.
This is all confected outrage. When we talk of workers we generally think of people whose income comes from their direct labour. People on salaries or self-employed.
We don't think of people who gain passive income from investments.
No honest person is that confused about this and thinks they're not workers because they own a few thousand pounds worth of shares or they have some savings gaining interest. When we talk of class in this country this divide is now probably the most important one, the answer to the question of if you need to work or not.
There is plenty to criticise about this budget regarding workers, i.e increasing the employers' NI contributions will indirectly tax workers. You can argue Labour never should have made this promise at all and instead should reverse last year's NI cut because it was never budgeted for in the first place. You could also argue that by far the biggest tax increase in tomorrow's budget will be that the tax bands are once again being frozen pushing more people into the higher tax bands despite inflation eroding the values of those salaries. An honest budget would go back to last year's NI rate and tell everyone upfront about the freezing of the bands. The tax burden on the middle-class is already very high so there isn't much scope to increase it beyond those measures anyway.
But instead of those substantive points, we get this disingenuous nonsense. Just liars everywhere arguing fiction between each other. This budget is a tax increase on workers, the last Tory budget was an tax increase on workers, it's needed because the economy has no growth and nobody is confused what workers mean.
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This is a great post. Very clear & concise as to the challenge and who should be contributing more. Now compare the vast majority of the posts that followed it to this one:
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I am dreading tomorrow, I am pretty certain they will take us from behind with no KY whilst all the time telling us how good it will be for us. I just hope winter is not that bad this year so we don't all freeze to death waiting in the queue for the soup kitchens.
Rest assured they don't give a damn if you do freeze to death they hate old folk
The Islington elite don't care about us real people. Just so long as they get their freebies. All those who voted for "change" should realise that rest of us have been short changed.
i suspect life expectantcy will go down under labour
One of our friends was absolutely disgusted with Labour for suggesting they will abolish the Winter Fuel Allowance. She said she always puts that money away for her holiday.
I always say that Labour will squeeze you till your pips squeak and then they will squeeze you some more. A mate of mine once said the motto of a Labour MP would be "what's yours is mine but what's mine is my own".
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I suppose it is Quality not Quantity that counts ...