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Originally Posted by Chris
You say you don’t believe Israel shouldn't exist, yet you freely parrot the talking points of those that do believe exactly that. You sound very much to me like someone who just believes what you’ve been told.
Further example … Israel was not created out of land that was ‘taken off Palestine’ which did not exist at the point Israel was created in 1948. So again, maybe check where you’re getting details from that you think are facts. Because they aren’t.
Mandate Palestine was a British-controlled territory carved out of part of the Ottoman Empire. Prior to that the land was administered within the Ottoman empire as several separate provinces. What you think of as Palestine had never been an independent country and prior to the mid-20th century its inhabitants considered themselves ethnically Arab. The proposal in 1948 would have created ‘Palestinian’ as a national identity in the same way the end of Mandate Mesopotamia in 1931 created ‘Iraqi’.
In the event, it was the actions of Jews prior to 1948 and actions of Israel since 1948, against the ethnic Arab inhabitants of that land, that have done as much as anything else to create a unifying sense of Palestinian identity.
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My original argument was Israel is not a country but a state, I admit I made a mistake of land being taken of Palestine. I knew it was a british controlled territory and they was a mandate for a free state of Israel.