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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
But we are talking solely about PIP. There are many people who only receive this because they aren't eligible for any other benefits.
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The zero level of instances of fraud recorded for PIP is as stated by the DWP under the last Government.
I don't see what the problem is with someone going to their holiday home if the sunshine is advantageous for their health.
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Indeed. I can't think of anybody who wouldn't give up PIP in return for their disabilities to magically be waved away.
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Indeed. And it's been pointed out in the consultation that the abolition of PIP could well be counter productive as some disabled people would have to give up work.
The Sunak Government launched a consultation for people to respond to their ideas (now closed). The new Starmer Government stance is that they are to look through the responses received and make any announcement in due course.
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You don't receive PIP because you're not eligible for any other benefits. There may be those with an income and/or savings which make them not eligible for any other benefits.
Difficult and a lot of effort to prove fraud. NOT ZERO cases, just a low %age. Eg 0.9% for 2023. As the number of new claims soars with non-disprovable "mental health" claims, any level of identified fraud get diluted.
They had a holiday home long beforehand(over 20 years before). They didn't go there for her "health". It was a case of being caught out and trying to come up with excuses. They stayed mainly in the summer and not in the winter months. Sun lamps are ALSO suitable. If staying in Iceland helped her condition, then they wouldn't have gone there. All contradictory to her claim.
My point remains that, could people claim holidays on the NHS as a "treatment"?
I don't think the perceived issue is with those ONLY receiving PIP alongside other earned income, such as a job. It is when combined with UC/ESA etc, that people can get large sums for doing nothing. There is no incentive to look for work. Even Labour say they are going to address that.
There seems to be a general misunderstanding of the reason for ESA and PIP. IIRC The extra money with ESA is meant to be a form of compensation for not being able to work, so that you're not on very basic benefits. IIRC the principle is that you are unable to increase your income any other way. PIP is meant to be for aids and assistance, and not for general living expenses.