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Originally Posted by Chris
Yeah … no. Not really. You need to stop swallowing trans rights kool aid so uncritically.
It speaks volumes that the TRA have casually exploited this boxer by raising strawman arguments and deliberately misusing language in ways designed to undermine ‘female’ as a simple, clear biological category.
There is more than enough evidence in the public domain to conclude that Imane Khelif has XY chromosomes with a disorder of sexual development that results in internal testes and, critically as far as sport goes, male puberty.
There is evidence that the IOC *knew* this before the competition began and therefore they knowingly allowed someone with male physical advantage to beat up female competitors in the ring and steal the gold medal from an actual female boxer.
Khelif’s DSD quite probably did lead to an incorrect observation of sex as female at birth, leading to ‘her’ being raised as a girl. Frankly if Khelif wishes to live private life as a woman then that’s none of anyone else’s business. In this case, in particular, it isn’t even a ‘trans rights’ issue, although some similar issues are raised. The line, however, comes when the very reason female sporting categories exist is crossed in the name of ‘inclusion’. Female sporting categories exist because it is the only way of ensuring inclusion of women in physical sports they could never win if they were compelled to compete only in a male or ‘open’ category.
The IOC however seems to have become fixated on making a political statement and whatever it knew about Khelif’s physiology, it had determined it was not going to use any such information in determining qualification for the female category. The only qualification the IOC seemed interested in was what was stamped in a passport - an obvious nonsense given the number of countries that now make it increasingly easy for men to create the legal fiction that they are women.
Sex is binary and immutable, and while people may have rights to dress and act however they choose in a liberal democracy, that right does not extend to stealing the rights and opportunities of others. Someone with a disorder of sexual development deserves compassion and support but not to the extent that they are allowed to exercise unfair advantage in sport. The IOC ought to have behaved very differently and ought to be ashamed.
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This has nothing to doing with drinking any kool aid as you put it just looking at the info out there and not falling for all the false allegations and hysteria over her. Yet an athlete that took part in the game raped a 12 yr old and there was hardly any outrsge over that!! .
Funny how she was boxing for 8 years winning and also loosing and there was no issues till last year. After she had beaten a Russian opponent and suddenly the IBA ran a 'test' and had an issue. A Russian led and controlled association. Being suspended by the IOC over various issues.
I mean Xy DSD aside if her testosterone levels were raised that isn't really a problem many women will have higher levels than a lot of mean that aspect isn't an issue. I mean claiming she has a male advantage when she has lost matches before and many women can indeed be stronger and more powerful than men. So trying to use that argument does really wash.
Not to mention in her home country it is illegal to be gay or trans. She was born and raised female, her family photos clearly show a little girl.