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jfman · 24-06-2024, 12:13

I’m not particularly a fan of my posts being selectively quoted to remove context. The attritional war that can never succeed without significant and uncertain NATO/US support (significantly more than is currently being offered) isn’t the only way to stop Russia at the current position.

Nobody can predict the future for Ukraine if it took a peace deal at roughly the current position. Whether there would be Russian appetite to continue, at some cost, in the future would be unclear. Putin can’t last forever.

I’ve also already pointed out above how Ukraine’s allies could - if there was political will - leave it better equipped for that eventuality, should it happen. I certainly think it’s much more desirable than sacrificing Ukrainians under the pretence of a return to 2022 borders while resourcing the status quo. Something America cannot commit to longer term - especially with rising tensions in the Middle East. Formalising the status quo, and going back to the drawing board, buys time to strategise.

The contention will no doubt be it also buys Russia time. It may well do, but you’d certainly hope NATO hand me downs would be better than what Russia can muster from North Korea and Iran.

24-06-2024, 12:13	#2916
jfman Architect of Ideas Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 11,146	Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine I’m not particularly a fan of my posts being selectively quoted to remove context. The attritional war that can never succeed without significant and uncertain NATO/US support (significantly more than is currently being offered) isn’t the only way to stop Russia at the current position. Nobody can predict the future for Ukraine if it took a peace deal at roughly the current position. Whether there would be Russian appetite to continue, at some cost, in the future would be unclear. Putin can’t last forever. I’ve also already pointed out above how Ukraine’s allies could - if there was political will - leave it better equipped for that eventuality, should it happen. I certainly think it’s much more desirable than sacrificing Ukrainians under the pretence of a return to 2022 borders while resourcing the status quo. Something America cannot commit to longer term - especially with rising tensions in the Middle East. Formalising the status quo, and going back to the drawing board, buys time to strategise. The contention will no doubt be it also buys Russia time. It may well do, but you’d certainly hope NATO hand me downs would be better than what Russia can muster from North Korea and Iran.