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Originally Posted by jfman
Meantime, Ukranians getting conscripted (against their will) to the front line meat grinder is an acceptable price to pay while America at best resources at stalemate and at worst a managed defeat?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Kremlin.html
Farage also out doing his bit to end the Parliamentary consensus on this.
Ultimately the clock has run out on Ukraine ever regaining its territory lost in 2022, never mind 2014. There’s only bogging down Russian resources for longer. This may well suit some of Ukraine’s neighbours, the USA and wider NATO objectives but as ever in the absence of democratic accountability for the Zelensky regime there’s no voice for the men being marched to their deaths or the refugees in the west.
If we levelled with them that much of the rhetoric from 2022 was merely lies and that their objectives and ours only coalesced within a short timeframe I suspect the Ukrainian support (within and outside it’s borders) for the forever war would be minimal.
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At least Ukraine are winning the meme war I guess. |
There are some Ukrainians being conscripted against there will but no where near what you imply (though it closely follows what Russian bots are posting).
Try actually talking to a Ukranian rather than sourcing info frrom Russia. They are easy to find depending on where you look.