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Originally Posted by nffc
I agree it sounds like crap but in actual fairness to either side there's no clear, indisputable facts which is right yet.
It sounds to me as well like those stories are simply absolute tosh (JVT had shares in Glaxo, who were working on a vaccine too, but we didn't go for it, and it was only because he used to work for them) but I'm sure you'll agree that the covid pandemic was strange times. Some of the ways people were behaving and asking others to, some of the things which were said, some of the things which were said and done and then this was kind of tried to be changed by revisionists later... It will probably not, but it could well turn out to be true.
It's like a few years back when people who thought that the virus came from a lab leak were being told they were nutcases whilst the official line was that it probably came from a bat or a pangolin or something and that anyone who questioned it was immediately given dismissal and funny looks. But most people are now at least open to the lab leak idea or think it was what happened including states.
And the stuff about vaccine side effects, OK so whenever a footballer collapses on the pitch the anti vaxxers are on it (didn't stop them even when Christian Eriksen wasn't vaccinated) which is going too far but the vaccines are known to damage some people's hearts and other parts of their body and that this has been known since the start (it is listed in the label as a minor side effect), but it is only in a small group of people that this happens. It is possible that say if a sportsman collapses tomorrow that the vaccination had contributed but it might not have done and they're just using that as traction for their argument even if it's not true.
After all, who knows what will be the answer in a few years and they will probably be looking back and saying "oh back in 2022 they thought it came from a bat and that the vaccines didn't cause a spike in heart disease" as though we should have seen it coming. It's not known.
It's good to hear your kidney is doing well. Transplants are always a bit nervy until it's seen that your body has taken the new organ and is using it properly which isn't always the case. Hopefully you're near the end of getting back to normal...
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Thanks yeah getting there. Next will come trying to get back to work after five years of not working
100% those who are 'awake' seem to have totally forgotten that every single medication and vaccine ever created has side effects ranging from mild to serious. Blaming every sudden death especially young adults or people that appear healthy on the jab or convid vaxx is just dumb.
However many of these so called experts seem to have been intelligent people at somepoint, and wether lockdown drove them crazy and they went down a rabbit hole never to emerge has yet to be seen. Chem trails, jabs, 15 mins cities, EVs and HAARP controlling weather seem to all go hand in hand with them.