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Originally Posted by Paul
Gosh, and there I was thinking they were in a war becasue Russia invaded them. I'm sure the president would be proud of you comrade.
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There’s no need to throw “comrade” or similar around for pointing out objective facts.
Similarly anyone should be allowed to suggest a negotiated settlement without being called “appeasers”. What Russia may (or may not) do in 5, 10, or more years ignores the ability to resource Ukraine (or neighbouring countries) or develop their armed forces or the United States to develop a slush fund to dip into (like seemingly Israel has).
This can be done without Zelensky getting the begging bowl out for Europe to deport men aged 18-60, or the newly eligible for conscription HIV positive, cancer patients and people with learning difficulties. I’m sure everyone appreciates why, as Ukraine retreats despite a “10 to 1” kill ratio I’m sceptical about the figures given by Ukraine.
If Ukraine in NATO (ha ha) is the answer then defining a “Ukraine” now at 80% of 2022 borders is surely advantageous than spending 1, 2, 3 more years battling on retreating front lines.