Although they are reluctant to say it outright, both John and Pierre seem to believe that appeasement is the best outcome in Ukraine. They witter on about "ritual human sacrifice" and "to the last man, no matter the cost." yet ignore the fact that it is the Ukrainians themselves who are wanting to defend their country. The West is not making them defend their homes and their families.
Ukrainians Stand Behind War Effort Despite Some Fatigue
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After 18 months of grinding conflict, Ukrainians remain deeply committed to winning the war with Russia -- although slightly less so than they were in the early months of the war.
Three in five (60%) Ukrainians interviewed in July and August said they want Ukraine to keep fighting until it wins, twice as many as those who want Ukraine to negotiate to end the war as soon as possible (31%). Ukrainians’ commitment is slightly muted from what it was in September 2022, when 70% of Ukrainians said they wanted their country to keep fighting, but the majority still staunchly support the war.
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The Vatnik's will claim the West is forcing Ukrainians to die but this is just propaganda.
A negotiation will leave Putin with his current gains and embolden him in the future to make new demands from his neighbours. The opposite of "Peace in our time" ...