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Old 24-04-2024, 11:47   #2808
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by ianch99 View Post
Ukraine did not have the ability to stop Russia in Crimea. It is the West that is culpable here. Remember that the Budapest Memorandum signed in 1994 stated that:
They had an army of 130,000 at the time. A year later it was double that.

Why no counter offensive in the decade that followed?

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The West sold Ukraine down the river and the appeasement in 2014 dialled in the invasion in 2022
and so now is the time to take back all of Ukraine, to the last man, no matter the cost.

I doubt that could ever happen without Western troops on the ground. Is that what you suggest?

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It basically comes down to appeasement: some think that Putin should be given the land he took by force and some think that aggression cannot be rewarded. History tells us that appeasement is a dangerous gamble
I think that Ukraine should negotiate with Russia. I ,personally, don't believe it is a war Ukraine can win. (i.e removing Russia totally from all of Ukraine)

I certainly don't think we should be pouring billion after billion after billion.....unaudited as far as I can tell, certainly I know the US senate has asked for some receipts to no avail, into a war that cannot be won.

We should pressure Ukraine to talk, hopefully stop hostilities and in the time after, spend the billions on increasing and re-arming our own armed forces and strengthening NATO.
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