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Originally Posted by Pierre
Well they lived with it for eight years.
Ukraine will do what it has to do. Lack of support could see Ukraine having to agree to a whole lot worse settlement.
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Ukraine is free to accept or refuse any offer. However, they are not free to receive unlimited support from the West for unobtainable goals.
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Russia won't concede any land anyway. 2014 is a pipe dream unless Russia is pushed out of those areas.
I also have deep scepticism Russia would abide by any agreement. They would take the time to rearm and invade again down the line. How much can you depend on a peaceful agreement with an aggressor who has already invaded with no material reason, such as a change in leadership, to suspect their motivations have changed?
For now, I think the best approach is to make sure Ukraine is armed and ready to at least repel any further incursion. Any peace talks need to be contingent on Ukraine otherwise being able to continue to hurt Russia if they are going to get any favourable terms in a deal. Putin isn't going to agree anything if he thinks he can continue to take Ukraine.