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Originally Posted by jfman
I’m not sure someone needs to have kids to have been through the education system themselves and decide on balance it’s primary function is to give kids somewhere to be to allow their parents to work first and educate some distant position further down than that.
Outside those with academic aspirations the system offered very little in terms of skills needed to get into a trade. People who make a success of themselves in a trade often do so despite the system, rather than because of it.
And I went to school before entire bits became dedicated to pronouns.
(Whether there’s societal value in this is a separate argument, but the housing market won’t prop up itself on the basis of one income households)
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I do recall hearing a few years ago that the less academic kids were to be introduced to vocational preparation at the age of 14 I think with work experience etc. I remember thinking at the time that this was a good idea.
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Originally Posted by jfman
I’m amazed anyone sees it as anything else for 95%+ of pupils. Very few things, if any, taught in a classroom today will have any relevance to work in 2045. Teaching is very much a gravy train for some families though of second and third generation teachers. Solid public sector employment, decent pension, nice holiday entitlement. So the industry has to pretend otherwise, academia sees the pound signs coming their way too so very happy to play along.
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One of my senior teacher friends has recently taken early retirement. He says that some of the kids are now impossible
to teach.
Upon entering the classroom two girls had turned their chairs round so that they had their backs to him. After he had dealt with this behaviour and completed the lesson the headmaster called him in as he had had a complaint from these girls for 'raising his eyebrows in an aggressive manner'! I told him that when I was at school it would have been the kids who would have been in trouble for their rude & disrespectful behaviour. He said that noe kids & teachers are treated as equals and both have a right to speak to the headmaster about the situation.
Later on he was admonished for marking a book in red as this was considered to be 'passive aggressive'. He said that this, and the fact that his salary had been cut in real terms by about 20% since 2010, is what made him decide to leave the profession.
In my time at school we had to stand up everything a teacher entered the classroom, but these days I can understand why there is a shortage of teachers.