[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by roughbeast

Characteristically, you are assuming the worst of converting Muslims.

Imagine that you had escaped a brutal Muslum regime where your life was in danger because you are a political opponent or you helped the west as a translator. You arrive in a European country to seek asylum. Whether you have been declared illegal, as in the UK, or you are awaiting a decision in a more civilised European country, you then get helped by local Christian groups. Against your expectations, you are treated like a human, given food and clothing and generally shown compassion. As a believer in the same god as the Christians Imagine the relief there must be when you realise the relative liberation of modern Christians as opposed to the brand of Islam you just escaped.

Muslims are converting to Christianity all over Europe. In most cases, given their plight back in their own country, they would have been granted asylum anyway, Christian or not. In the UK, where genuine refugees are being declared illegal even though they are not illegal in international law, their emotional response to the only compassion many are offered will be driving many to Christianity.

I would have thought, Sephi, that you would be relieved at the epiphany so many Muslims are experiencing and which is leading them away from Islam, a religion you regard as poisonous.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...g-christianity

Imagine that you had escaped a brutal Muslum regime where your life was in danger because you are a political opponent or you helped the west as a translator. You arrive in a European country to seek asylum. Whether you have been declared illegal, as in the UK, or you are awaiting a decision in a more civilised European country, you then get helped by local Christian groups. Against your expectations, you are treated like a human, given food and clothing and generally shown compassion. As a believer in the same god as the Christians Imagine the relief there must be when you realise the relative liberation of modern Christians as opposed to the brand of Islam you just escaped.

What's wrong with the person seeking asylum in the first European country they enter? You mention local Christian groups. These people, if in the UK, are being fooled by most, if not all the migrants who are gaming our system. Also, you've stated that the converting Muslims are relieved to have got away from that nasty Islam that they so despised. That is total, naive, fancy.

Muslims are converting to Christianity all over Europe. In most cases, given their plight back in their own country, they would have been granted asylum anyway, Christian or not. In the UK, where genuine refugees are being declared illegal even though they are not illegal in international law, their emotional response to the only compassion many are offered will be driving many to Christianity.

Good - let them do that; in Europe - not here when it's during their detention and they're gaming the system. Are you blind?

I would have thought, Sephi, that you would be relieved at the epiphany so many Muslims are experiencing and which is leading them away from Islam, a religion you regard as poisonous.

I regard those illegal migrants as poisonous as you regard my view of Islam. Anyone with a genuine reason for asylum should apply in France or elsewhere in Europe. Better still if they haven't destroyed their documents.