[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

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“There is no civil service activism, there is no civil service passive aggression, there is no separate civil service agenda. I saw no evidence of a small group of activists trying to undermine a minister. The issue is a minister’s behaviour.”
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That’s what Lord McDonald thinks, not what Raab and many others in the government think. You completely missed my point, as usual.

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Originally Posted by jfman

Nobody has disputed that the lazy trope is a CCHQ attack line that some are well versed in to deflect from Government incompetence or inadequacy. To find it referenced in an article where a Minister has been forced out in disgrace is unsurprising, perhaps even expected.

We've asked for evidence of it actually happening.

I said that is what many Conservatives think. You are again changing the thrust of the argument. Do your own research. I am not your slave or researcher.

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Originally Posted by jfman

One person leaving the Civil Service to work for a political party does not support the sweeping generalisation.

Civil servants are supposed to be politically neutral. This clearly shows that this principle no longer applies. Are you really trying to have us believe that this is an isolated example?

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Originally Posted by ianch99

1. No proof

2. Proof

Well, left wingers would say that, wouldn’t they?

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Originally Posted by ianch99

No problem as we can still drive around on our badly maintained but sovereign roads

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You could argue, but not in court, that providing no proof at all is a quite lazy position?

BTW, loving the selection from the playground lexicon so early in the day

More often than not, the lefties on here provide links to support their strange view of the world.

When anyone questions this with a link of their own, the lefties complain about the source of the article. When they can’t do that because it’s a leftie source, they pick out an odd sentence or so in a desperate effort to rubbish the article. If that fails, they change the nature of the argument!

You’ve got to admit, this is pretty pathetic.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Andrew, that the Civil Service is leftist is a well discussed topic, on which there are a variety of views and opinions. My opinion is that they are, by and large, leftist.

If Sue Gray, then why not others? Balance of probability.

All you difficult sods simply say "prove it" rather than debate it.

Spot on.

And look at all those wimps complaining that they have been ‘bullied’ by ministers for failing to do their jobs.

Left wing incompetents, all of them.